I wasn't sure what to title this but oh well. I definitely enjoyed this film, I thought it was great. I've always taken a great fascination with serial killers and her story was very interesting. I found her particular rape scene in the movie really horrible. And people wonder how serial killers are created.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial4/wuornos/

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But whether or not these people deserved what they got, serial killers aren't made, they choose to kill.

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Seral killers may be mentally ill and not driving on all cylinders. It's not as black and white as you want it to be Lola. Not exusing their actions here but I do believe a chemical imbalance for example can lesson their culpability and their free will is no longer on the same level as the free will you or I would have.

[QUOTE=Escape]. It's not as black and white as you want it to be Lola.QUOTE]


Do you actually think that my entire view on murderers was summed up in the few sentences I wrote? Of course not, and of course people who are chemically imbalanced who murder aren't driving on all cylinders, but today the world is over medicated and everyone is finding somewhere/someone else to blame for their actions, this doesn't end at murder. I was merely voicing my opinion that people tend to not take responsibility for their actions anymore, and people will abuse the outlet of being "chemically imbalanced", even if they're not. Not everyone who commits a crime can blame it on some sort of disorder. I apologize for not making my opinion clearer.

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I completly agree with you Lola. People have stopped taking responsibility for their actions; even the simple things such as "no fault" car insurance. We can't even own up to causing a car crash and pay for what we did. Nothing wrong with having insurance, but just the name "no fault", that's the way everyone thinks these days.

There are plenty of chemically imbalanced people who do not murder. Circumstances and choice both contribute, in addition to a "problem".

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I wasnt sure with your "serial killers aren't made, they choose to kill". If you had put the word some in front of the word serial killers, you would't have gotten my response. There are people who believe they should "all" be hanged you know.

But you cleared it up so it's all good.

Nah, I'm no McCarthy.

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Ok well i'll have to side more with Escape. But I'd like to say unless we were a serial killer I don't think we' d know exactly how it is. I think if someione murdered one person it would be completely different from a serial killer because they do it repeatedly and most of the time randomly. Personally, I believe its a combination of both. I mean nature vs.nurture blah blah. I think they're both strongly connected and can't be untwined. People have been doing research on serial killers brains not to mention it could be their surroundings that get them like that. Usually serial killers have events in their lives which shape them into the people they become. Now some of you might say that some serial killers have nice homes. But thats all subjective...what seems nice to us can be horrible to someone else. WE have no idea. I believe they choose to kill but I think it goes deeper, I think they have a need to kill. Because alot of circumstances.

Also I don't think realizing that their surroundings could have had something to do with, is removing the blame from them. But you have to consider whether or not this person knew from right and wrong. What we perceive as wrong can be completely different from their wrong and could thereby lead to their habits. I mean i'm not sure theres so many different theories. But I mean I wouldn't say they're necessarily blaming others.

Serial killers are in awhole different league from one time murders as well I believe. Because that kid who called two police officers and blame it on a videogame. I think thats a bunch of crap. But when someone says something that absolutely ridiculous they have to be insane.

Ok i'm rambling and i'm not sure if I'm making sense because I have so many ideas about this. And thats all they can be really ideas. Because I don't think we'll ever know unless we become one.

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I agree that there's a definite mix between nature and nurture that so called "creates" murderers. But I also think that in many cases, I don't want to say most because like you said Misty, none of us can really know (unless of course...just kidding)...in many cases there's always that split second (or longer) where they have a choice, "I can kill or I can not kill" and then they make their decision, making themselves a murderer. I do believe that there are people who kill and probably have no idea of the damage their doing, but I hardly think that most murderers fall into this category.

I seems to me as if we're living in an over-medicated world where everyone wants a quick way to get out of trouble, and with many people claiming to have disorders or diseases, which in many cases only have little scientific proof, there's an easy way to get out of everything, even murder. So people claiming things like "my video game made me do it" may very well be signs of a truly sick person, but it seems like more often it's a sign of someone scrambling for a way out. We just have to be careful of who we believe.

People just don't seem to take responsibility for the actions and decisions anymore.

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I guess thats human nature wouldn't you say? I mean everyone once in their lives blames someone else. I'm not saying to maybe accept this ...but this could be something that we can't change.

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